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Poster: glenn Date: Aug 7, 2004 5:25am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: best quality shows? we need ELEVEN stars

ftp://anonymous:email%40notset.com@audio19.archive.org/3/audio/gd72-10-28.sbd.ashley-bertha.20405.sbeok.shnf/

this is Digitally remastered using a custom built, Dual-DAW, nicknamed Bertha... Bertha is a laptop-computer-based portable digital sound studio, that apparently has gone through several incarnations and is used in afairly open circle of sound fanatics. "bertha" has a great reputationin the community,any berthashows willbe worthy in terms of both sound quality and content usually, often being upgraded versions cassette or reel tapes, but sometimes I believe, recorded directly :
sbd>bertha>shn shows would be likely great quality.

also,famous seeders like the hamiltons and Tony Gardner, Seraphin Station, etc. in the text file, while not an endorsement per se are a good hint at either sound or content quality...

'recordists' often earn their place in a filename too when well-known for quality recordings ,like the ubiquitous '.glassberg.vernon. ' tag in a filename...

don't know about' longest' show, butI have a disc with 2 full dead shows on it, from some SF ballroom or other. 2 full dead shows on one disc. thats the short end of the spectrum ...

also the archive.org features the ability to list 'best' shows by listing by reviewer rating, when browsing a list of shows... of course if the ratingsystem were more granular(i'd like to see it go to '11'... just imagine what an eleven sounds like..only hear 5 star shows with this present rating system, and my sound equipment goes to eleven, lol



This post was modified by glenn on 2004-08-07 12:25:41

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Poster: US Blues Date: Aug 7, 2004 10:49am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: best quality shows? we need ELEVEN stars

For sound quality look at the text file for each show, it will indicate the lineage of the recording. RM (reel master) direct to digital will sound better (usually) than shows with cassette generations. Later era digital recordings sound good, although they lack the warmth of analogue recordings, IMHO.

Years: October 73 thru Oct 74 is generally very good. 12.1.73 from Boston is sweet, or try 5.14.74 from Montana for serious thrills. The Europe 72 shows were all taped from a seperate feed in a mobile truck, with a seperate rough mix for 2-track done live by Betty Cantor, the Goddess of Dead Tapes. Since most soundboards simply use the house mix they are often funkier mixes. 5.10.72 from Amsterdam is a good example and sadly overlooked as a show. Late 70's shows were made on tapes that have required "baking" to keep the magnetic particles on the backing. Good shows here but some sonic degradation is noticeable. Oh, 10.12.68 sounds great, having been remastered from vault tapes by Dvid Gans, plus the show has a very low pH ;-)

Finally, a few shows are said to be rough mixes from multi-track tapes, which in theory should yield amazing results. Check the Fillmore West run of late Feb-early March 69, some March 90 shows from Albany and Nassau, and 8.27.72 from Veneta, OR.

Longest shows: a few shows occupy 4 CD's, notably 7.31.74, 8.6.74, 5.10.72, 5.26.72, 5.23.72. I'm not sure which one times out as longest.

BTW- investing in high-speed internet and an FTP client will afford massive download capability, and if you're like the rest of us, make you one happy camper.

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Poster: glenn Date: Aug 7, 2004 7:20pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: best quality shows? we need ELEVEN stars

"RM (reel master) direct to digital will sound better (usually) than shows with cassette generations."

Quite true generally. Good point,especially since I linked to that cassette based show.

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Poster: auggie Date: Aug 10, 2004 4:27am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: best quality shows? we need ELEVEN stars

I stream 1st to get a feel for the show and pay attention to the lineage. Reviews are a good road map but too many people get caught up in the "I was there and it was so great" mentality. I also used to tape the Dead Hour and that gave me insight into good sounding eras to focus my time.

I'm in the process of doing a complete overhall to my shows and for every replacement of a favorite like Thelma Theater '69 I try to find something new like Portland '74.